{"id":1909,"date":"2019-12-22T19:28:00","date_gmt":"2019-12-22T17:28:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/?p=1909"},"modified":"2026-09-29T17:14:17","modified_gmt":"2026-09-29T14:14:17","slug":"istorie-si-rasism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/en\/2019\/12\/istorie-si-rasism.html","title":{"rendered":"Istorie si rasism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>\n <o:OfficeDocumentSettings>\n  <o:AllowPNG\/>\n <\/o:OfficeDocumentSettings>\n<\/xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>\n <w:WordDocument>\n  <w:View>Normal<\/w:View>\n  <w:Zoom>0<\/w:Zoom>\n  <w:TrackMoves\/>\n  <w:TrackFormatting\/>\n  <w:HyphenationZone>21<\/w:HyphenationZone>\n  <w:PunctuationKerning\/>\n  <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas\/>\n  <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false<\/w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>\n  <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false<\/w:IgnoreMixedContent>\n  <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false<\/w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>\n  <w:DoNotPromoteQF\/>\n  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2019<\/p>\n<p>Sau \u201ecultura\/ antropologia pentru to\u021bi\u201d. <\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nCeea ce nu este r\u0103u. Cultura ( de orice fel \u0219i \u00een orice<br \/>\ndomeniu) trebuie promovat\u0103 cat mai mult c\u0103ci lipsa ei a dus deja la grave<br \/>\nderapaje. Unul dintre aceste derapaje grave este \u201ecorectitudinea politica\u201d.<br \/>\nBoal\u0103 grea de care sufer\u0103 \u0219i aceast\u0103 carte. Grea suferin\u021b\u0103 care genereaz\u0103 abera\u021bii<br \/>\n(nu de data asta) \u0219i fracturi logice. Sincer fiind, f\u0103r\u0103 aceste fracturi logice<br \/>\n\u0219i \u201ecorectitudini politice\u201d o carte discut\u00e2nd despre \u201eras\u0103\u201dsi \u201erasism\u201d ar fi<br \/>\nfost interzis\u0103. Si nu cred c\u0103 autorii au veleit\u0103\u021bi de martiri ai \u0219tiin\u021bei. <\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<br \/>\nS\u0103 fim \u00eensa bine \u00een\u021bele\u0219i : cartea merit\u0103 \u0219i trebuie citit\u0103. Mai ales pentru c\u0103<br \/>\neste pentru prima dat\u0103 (probabil) c\u00e2nd ve\u021bi avea preocup\u0103ri antropologice\/<br \/>\nrasiale. Nici m\u0103car nu pute\u021bi fi de acord cu mine ( sau cu autorii) f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 o citi\u021bi.\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nL-am \u00eent\u00e2lnit pe dl. Marius Turda de cur\u00e2nd, in cadrul unei conferin\u021be<br \/>\norganizate de Universitatea Bucure\u0219ti. Mi-a f\u0103cut o impresie puternic\u0103 si am<br \/>\nfost ( \u00eenc\u0103 sunt) impresionat de vasta cultur\u0103 si cunoa\u0219tere a istoriei na\u021bionale<br \/>\ninterbelice ( nu numai a antropologiei). Si de el ca om de cultur\u0103 si \u0219tiin\u021b\u0103. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nAm cump\u0103rat ulterior ultima sa carte pe care am reu\u0219it s\u0103 o<br \/>\ntermin. Principalele mele insatisfac\u021bii (majore) sunt legate de :<\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst\" style=\"mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -.25in;\">\n<span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\">a)<span style=\"font: 7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/span>Afirmare inexistentei raselor;<\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoListParagraphCxSpLast\" style=\"mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -.25in;\">\n<span style=\"mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;\"><span style=\"mso-list: Ignore;\">b)<span style=\"font: 7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/span>Amestecarea conceptelor de \u201eras\u0103\u201d, \u201eetnicitate\u201d,<br \/>\n\u201esuperioritate\u201d, \u201ena\u021bionalitate\u201d. <\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nLu\u00e2ndu-le pe r\u00e2nd. <\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">1. Afirmarea<br \/>\ninexistentei raselor umane. <\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nAceasta este concluzia principala a c\u0103r\u021bii. Nu este prima<br \/>\ndat\u0103 c\u00e2nd citesc materiale ale antropologilor prin care \u00ee\u0219i desfiin\u021beaz\u0103 (<br \/>\ndirect \u0219i prin deduc\u021bie logica) \u0219tiin\u021ba a c\u0103ror cercet\u0103tori sau profesori sunt<br \/>\n( dl Marius Turda este profesor la Oxford Brooks de istoria biomedicinei). Afirma\u021bia<br \/>\neste corect\u0103 politic dar incorect\u0103 conform realit\u0103\u021bii, opticii, medicinei,<br \/>\nbunului simt. <\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nEu m\u0103 uit la un individ si \u00eel identific ca apar\u021bin\u00e2nd speciei<br \/>\numane (cei mai mul\u021bi apar\u021bin\u00e2nd subspeciei Homo sapiens sapiens). Apoi \u00eel<br \/>\nidentific ca fiind alb, negru, galben, brun, ro\u0219u ( nord-americanii), etc. Rasa<br \/>\n\u0219i culoarea pielii sunt Realit\u0103\u021bi Biologice Obiective. M\u0103 uit si v\u0103d culori<br \/>\ndiferite. Dac\u0103 m-as uita mai \u00een interior as vedea diferen\u021be Structurale clare<br \/>\n\u0219i clasificabile. Nu m\u0103 refer la doar la craniometrie. Dar sa r\u0103m\u00e2nem la ceva<br \/>\nclar: culoare. Tocmai pentru a preveni alte clasific\u0103ri cu poten\u021bial distructiv<br \/>\n( arieni, mediteraneeni, teutoni, etc.) trebuie s\u0103 accept\u0103m o clasificare<br \/>\nbenign\u0103 bazat\u0103 pe culoarea pielii. Si dac\u0103 nu o denumim \u201eras\u0103\u201d cum as denumi-o<br \/>\n? Colora\u021bie ? Asta ar fi urat. Te ui\u021bi la culoarea pielii tale \u0219i \u0219tii ce e\u0219ti.<br \/>\nSau, dac\u0103 ai dubii e\u0219ti metis. O \u00eencruci\u0219are intre dou\u0103 sau mai multe rase.<br \/>\nNici aici nu v\u0103d o problem\u0103. E\u0219ti metis. Nu e\u0219ti alb, nu e\u0219ti negru, nu e\u0219ti<br \/>\ngalben, e\u0219ti metis. E\u0219ti ceva. Dar Nu e\u0219ti alb. Nu e\u0219ti nici negru. Trebuie totu\u0219i<br \/>\ns\u0103 fii ceva c\u0103ci exi\u0219ti si dore\u0219ti a determina c\u0103rei rase apar\u021bii. <\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nNu m\u0103 pute\u021bi convinge s\u0103 privesc o imagine a unui alb al\u0103turi<br \/>\nde un negru \u0219i s\u0103 nu v\u0103d nici o diferen\u021b\u0103. Dac\u0103 nu o remarca\u021bi, v\u0103 pot<br \/>\nrecomanda un oculist ( cazul simplu) sau un neurolog ( partea lung\u0103 si<br \/>\npericuloas\u0103). S\u0103 nu \u00eemi cere\u021bi s\u0103 \u201efac abstrac\u021bie\u201d de ea. Rasele deci exist\u0103. <\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nDe aici \u00eens\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 la a afirma superioritatea uneia \u00een fata<br \/>\nalteia\u2026 drum lung. S\u0103 nu plec\u0103m deocamdat\u0103 pe el. S\u0103 clarific\u0103m aceast\u0103 evident\u0103.<br \/>\nZiua e zi, noaptea e noapte, albul e alb, galbenul e galben si negru este<br \/>\nnegru. Ok ? Mergem in continuare. <\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<b style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;\">2. Amestecarea<br \/>\nconceptelor de \u201erasa\u201d, \u201eetnicitate\u201d, \u201esuperioritate\u201d, \u201ena\u021bionalitate\u201d. <\/b><\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nDomnia sa, pe parcursul a peste 140 de pagini afirm\u0103 c\u0103<br \/>\naceste concepte de ras\u0103, etnie, na\u021bionalitate, civiliza\u021bie sau cultur\u0103 au fost<br \/>\nbulversate si aranjate \u201em\u0103sluit\u201d \u00een a demonstra anumite idei preconcepute sau<br \/>\nvalide dar neargumentate. Afirm\u00e2nd, evident, o superioritate a unei na\u021bii sau<br \/>\nrase. Ceea ce este discutabil si, in cele mai multe cazuri, eronat. Sunt in<br \/>\nperfect acord cu opinia Domniei sale. Ceea ce nu \u00een\u021beleg este cum de folose\u0219te<br \/>\nexact acelea\u0219i confuzii in a demonstra contrariul : inexistenta \u201eraselor umane\u201d.<br \/>\nExact acelea\u0219i metode utilizate \u00een ambele sensuri. In demonstrarea \u201esuperiorit\u0103\u021bii\u201d<br \/>\nsi \u201einexistentei\u201d. <br \/>\nTotodat\u0103, nu putem s\u0103 desconsider\u0103m ni\u0219te pozi\u021bii sau idei ale unor g\u00e2nditori,<br \/>\nantropologi, oameni politici doar pe baza efectelor ulterioare ale doctrinelor<br \/>\nlor. Nu trebuie for\u021bat\u0103 o fals\u0103 rela\u021bie de cauzalitate acolo unde nu exist\u0103. Si<br \/>\nchiar in cazul in care exist\u0103 o rela\u021bie de cauzalitate nu putem ignora<br \/>\nipotezele, argument\u0103rile, dovezile si g\u00e2ndirea celor cu care nu suntem de<br \/>\nacord, chiar dac\u0103 efectele sunt cunoscute. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">&nbsp;<\/span>Suntem cu to\u021bii de acord c\u0103 nazismul lui<br \/>\nHitler a fost si eronat si creat pseudo\u0219tiin\u021be. Cu toate acestea nu putem<br \/>\nelimina in bloc, f\u0103r\u0103 o analiz\u0103 la rece, toate ipotezele acelei perioade si<br \/>\nstudiile sau ideile filosofice ale Germaniei interbelice si naziste. Aceea\u0219i<br \/>\nmanipulare ( uneori fin\u0103) in desfiin\u021barea imensei majorit\u0103\u021bi a \u201eentuzia\u0219tilor\u201d<br \/>\nrasismului. Si anul\u00e2ndu-i pe ace\u0219tia brusc anul\u0103m \u00eens\u0103\u0219i discu\u021bia peste timp legat\u0103<br \/>\nde existenta raselor umane. Total eronat. <\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nCeea ce \u00eens\u0103 m-a bucurat si as dori s\u0103 \u00eel suspectez pe<br \/>\ndistinsul nostru compatriot de pl\u0103cut\u0103 \u0219iretenie: citarea surselor folosite,<br \/>\nnumelor autorilor, titlurilor lucr\u0103rilor \u0219colilor pro-\u201erasiste\u201d interna\u021bionale<br \/>\n( in special europene). Aceste mici citate ( desigur comb\u0103tute de autor) iti<br \/>\ntrezesc aten\u021bia deoarece nu le \u0219tiai. Si le notezi urm\u00e2nd a le analiza direct<br \/>\nsi f\u0103r\u0103 interferente externe astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t s\u0103 i\u021bi po\u021bi faci o proprie opinie. O<br \/>\nlung\u0103 lista de g\u00e2nditori asupra rasismului, a existentei raselor, filosofi,<br \/>\nmedici, antropologi, etnografi, oameni politici sau conduc\u0103tori. Daca adev\u0103rul<br \/>\nreiese din confruntarea ideilor atunci, cu siguran\u021b\u0103, trebuie s\u0103 le d\u0103m si lor cuv\u00e2ntul.<br \/>\nA\u0219a c\u0103\u2026 citi\u021bi, nota\u021bi, c\u0103uta\u021bi \u00een anticariate sau \u00een c\u0103r\u021bile vechi scanate ( c\u00e2teva<br \/>\npostate chiar de mine). S\u0103 g\u00e2ndim noi \u00een\u0219ine si s\u0103 decidem ce credem. <\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nExistenta sau inexistenta raselor umane \u00eemi pare o \u00eentrebare<br \/>\nf\u0103r\u0103 scop. Nu po\u021bi ignora realitatea fizic\u0103. Rasele biologice exist\u0103 si ne este<br \/>\nu\u0219or sa le observ\u0103m. Ele nu sunt identice si au diferen\u021be notabile. Si ele trebuie<br \/>\nenumerate si clasificate. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">&nbsp;<\/span>Metis\u0103rile<br \/>\nexist\u0103. Si accelereaz\u0103. Este \u00eens\u0103 discutabil\u0103 teoria superiorit\u0103\u021bii fizice, a poten\u021bialului<br \/>\ncultural, creativ sau intelectual al unei anumite rase. Spun discutabil\u0103 \u0219i nu neap\u0103rat<br \/>\ninexact\u0103. Desigur aici intr\u0103m pe t\u0103r\u00e2mul subiectivit\u0103\u021bii si a incorectitudinii \u201epolitice\u201d.<br \/>\nDar o zon\u0103 ce trebuie, c\u00e2ndva, cercetat\u0103 \u0219i l\u0103murit\u0103. \u0218tiin\u021ba ur\u0103\u0219te \u201ezonele<br \/>\nalbe\u201d, zonele interzise cercet\u0103rii. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\nDac\u0103 \u00eens\u0103 dorim s\u0103 avem dreptul de a avea o opinie trebuie, \u00eenainte<br \/>\nde a o formula, s\u0103 ne ad\u00e2ncim \u00een studiul rasismului \u0219i al antropologie. Iar cartea \u201eIstorie \u0219i rasism\u201d a compatriotului nostru \u201epierdut\u201d prin Londra este<br \/>\ncel mai bun punct \u00een aceast\u0103 c\u0103utare. <\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\">\n<\/div>\n<p>\n<span data-offset-key=\"87ut-0-0\"><span data-text=\"true\"><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Istorie \u0219i rasism. \u2013 Marius Turda si Maria Sophia Quine Editura Polirom 2019 Sau \u201ecultura\/ antropologia pentru to\u021bi\u201d. Ceea ce nu este r\u0103u. Cultura ( de orice fel \u0219i \u00een orice domeniu) trebuie promovat\u0103 cat mai mult c\u0103ci lipsa ei a dus deja la grave&#8230;<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_kad_post_transparent":"","_kad_post_title":"","_kad_post_layout":"","_kad_post_sidebar_id":"","_kad_post_content_style":"","_kad_post_vertical_padding":"","_kad_post_feature":"","_kad_post_feature_position":"","_kad_post_header":false,"_kad_post_footer":false,"_kad_post_classname":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[34,35,45,46,51,57,60,64,76,77],"class_list":["post-1909","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-istorie","tag-filosofie","tag-fobii","tag-istorie","tag-iubire","tag-logica","tag-moarte","tag-morala","tag-opinii","tag-razboi","tag-religie"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1909","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1909"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1909\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":51657,"href":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1909\/revisions\/51657"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1909"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1909"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mazion.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1909"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}